[Mastwatch] West Kal Mast

Mark Leighton markleighton9 at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 28 06:45:09 PDT 2019


 correct, Tim
    On Thursday, March 28, 2019, 2:46:24 PM GMT+2, Tim Laman <tim at timlaman.com> wrote:  
 
 Greetings all,
To add my two cents, I think what Peter meant mainly is that any limited lateral movement from the parent tree by the winged fruit is disrupted by the canopy below so they won’t keep moving sideways.  I don’t think a very large percentage of fruits get stuck in the canopy.  Most fall to the ground, but they certainly don’t get far.  
For your enjoyment, here is a shot I took of the masting Shorea spp in the canopy in Gunung Palung in December with one of those very handy new-fangled drones.  While the Shorea fruits are positioned at the twig tips, you can see in the image that most will not get a “clean release” from their own tree crown, and will just tumble down to the ground beneath the tree.  But selection operates on rare events, right?  What about that big gust of wind that comes before thunderstorms?  Could that carry a few seeds from the top of the crown to some distance, and they survive better than the mass of seedlings beneath the tree?
Best,Tim

On Mar 28, 2019, at 7:43 AM, Lord Cranbrook <lordcranbrook at greatglemhamfarms.co.uk> wrote:
THere are always 1000's of seedlings around the base of parent trees, after a mast year. l don't think wind dispersal is very effective.Why are the wings so brightly coloured ?ln Sarawak engkebang fruits also float down the rivers  From: Mastwatch [mailto:mastwatch-bounces at lists.phylodiversity.net] On Behalf Of Mikaail Kavanagh
Sent: 28 March 2019 04:15
To: Ashton, Peter; Wong Siew Te DJN; Andreas Carlson; mastwatch at lists.phylodiversity.net
Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] West Kal Mast  Hi Friends,   Interesting point, Peter. I must confess to not knowing that so many of the winged fruit never make it to ground level.  Wong, the video that you circulated (thanks!) got me thinking about the relevance of the winged fruits in terms of evolutionary strategies for different sub-habitats and niches.  Presumably, there would be different selective pressures according to such differences?  In particular, has anyone looked at the wings' effect on floating - potentially for long distances - for such a riverside specialist as, for example, the Neram (Dipterocarpus oblongifolius)?  Thanks for sharing.  Mike  Dato’ Dr Mikaail Kavanagh, MBEMobile:  +6012 267 5775Office:   +603 6203 3138 Email: dmikekav at gmail.comSkype:           mikaail.kavanaghOffice:  Suite A-06-06    Plaza Mont Kiara,  2 Jalan Kiara   50480  Kuala Lumpur,   Malaysia                      

On 27 Mar 2019, at 6:07 PM, Ashton, Peter <pashton at oeb.harvard.edu> wrote:  Hi Andreas and mastwatchers,  There have been several efforts to study the impact of dipterocarp winged fruit on their distance of dispersal. Bu don't forget that the vast majority rarely fall in a wind, and then only into the main canopy a few metres beneath. So studies of the comparative influence of winged versus winglessness on the fate of the embryo (trapped in the canopy versus dropping through (and then what?), survival, predation etc.) deserves study as well.  PeterFrom: Mastwatch <mastwatch-bounces at lists.phylodiversity.net> on behalf of Andreas Carlson <acarlson at math.uio.no>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 1:54:08 AM
To: Siew Teu Wong
Cc: mastwatch at lists.phylodiversity.net
Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] West Kal Mast Dear all,   This movie was absolutely stunning! We have been working on understanding how the geometry of these flying fruits influence their flight (https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.122.024501).Amazing to see this fruiting and fascinating flight!   Thanks for sharing.   Best,Andreas.—————————————
Andreas Carlson
Associate Professor 
Department of Mathematics 
University of Oslo

E-mail: acarlson at math.uio.no
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On 25 Mar 2019, at 10:02, Siew Te Wong <wongsiew at hotmail.com> wrote:  Hi all,This video was posted in FB, taken somewhere in Sibu, Sarawak.https://www.facebook.com/edgar.ong/videos/10155952528861232/  Thank you. Kindest regards,Wong Dr (Hon) Wong Siew Te, D.J.N.  准拿督黃修德荣誉博士C.E.O. and Founder, Bornean Sun Bear Conservation Centre
email: wongsiew at hotmail.comskype: wongsiewCell: 016-555 1256 http://www.bsbcc.org.my/
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"May all beings be happy, joyful, well, & at safety & peace!" From: Mastwatch <mastwatch-bounces at lists.phylodiversity.net> on behalf of Philipson Christopher David <christopher.philipson at usys.ethz.ch>
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 6:23 PM
To: Cam Webb
Cc: mastwatch at lists.phylodiversity.net
Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] West Kal Mast Hi Cam and all,   I just returned from south India and saw some dip fruiting in the forest reserves in Kerala.  Being seasonal forest its perhaps a bit less relevant to the Borneo fruiting - but it would be interesting to link these cycles climatically and genetically at some point!  CheersChris  Dr. Christopher Philipsonchristopher.philipson at usys.ethz.ch  http://www.ecology.ethz.ch/people/group-leaders.html  http://scholar.google.ch/citations?user=9J6ltyUAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=ao  

On 28 Feb 2019, at 18:53, Cam Webb <cam_webb at yahoo.com> wrote:  Thanks all, for the forest news from across Borneo (and beyond).

It seems the Gunung Palung mast was big: definitely biggest since Feb
2010, and maybe bigger than that one. Peak fruit fall was several weeks
ago. Dipterocarp flowering started in late Sept 2018. I’ll post more
details when I know them.

Best,

Cam
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